Frances is projected to run straight up the peninsula. Where are the
planes going to hide this time?

--
Ben Jackson
>
http://www.ben.com/

Ben Jackson wrote:
> Frances is projected to run straight up the peninsula. Where are the
> planes going to hide this time?

Tennessee

"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> Ben Jackson wrote:
> > Frances is projected to run straight up the peninsula. Where are the
> > planes going to hide this time?
>
> Tennessee
>

And for the next big one this year they may go to Washington State

Canada...?

>
>> > Frances is projected to run straight up the peninsula. Where are the
>> > planes going to hide this time?
>>
>> Tennessee
>>
>
>And for the next big one this year they may go to Washington State
>
Well, one would expect the ones in the more liberal southern parts would fly
left (to Texas???) and the more conservative ones in the northern areas would
go right (MA???)

Sorry, my hanging chad made me do that.

"AJW" > wrote in message
...
>
> Sorry, my hanging chad made me do that.


Isn't there a porn star named "Hanging Chad?"

Peter Gottlieb wrote:
>
> "AJW" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Sorry, my hanging chad made me do that.
>
> Isn't there a porn star named "Hanging Chad?"

No, that's "Hung Chad".

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.

In article <tUyZc.222681$8_6.124664@attbi_s04>,
(Ben Jackson) wrote:

> Frances is projected to run straight up the peninsula. Where are the
> planes going to hide this time?

Mine is going to hide from Frences in the same place it hid from her
brother Charley: in its hangar!

Trouble with flying out is that the projected path has such a large area
of uncertainty that we cannot determine safe havens.

> Trouble with flying out is that the projected path has such a large area
> of uncertainty that we cannot determine safe havens.

Let me see if I understand this:

It's better to leave the aircraft in an area of near-certain impact, than it
is to fly the plane to an area of near-certain safety?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Ben Jackson" wrote in message ...
> Frances is projected to run straight up the peninsula. Where are the
> planes going to hide this time?
>
Most of the planes at Orlando Executive airport are all gone with only a few
remaining behind, maybe those will be moved tomorrow.
But for those of us that also have to worry about our boats, I have been
left
with no choice but to leave the boat right where it is (Port Canaveral,
Fl.).

Capt.Dave (KORL) PP-ASEL

Jay Honeck wrote:
>
> > Trouble with flying out is that the projected path has such a large area
> > of uncertainty that we cannot determine safe havens.
>
> Let me see if I understand this:

Obviously not.

> It's better to leave the aircraft in an area of near-certain impact, than it
> is to fly the plane to an area of near-certain safety?

The problem is that there is no area of near-certain safety much closer to Florida
than Iowa. Maybe not there -- don't you guys get tornados this time of year?

There's no telling where that storm will hit land. Right now, it looks like it will
hit in Florida, but 'canes have been known to veer as far as NY before (or even head
back out to sea and die in mid-Atlantic). Once it hits land, there's no telling where
it will go. If it waltzes up the coast, it will stay a very strong storm and could
tear up everything between Florida and Hatteras -- maybe more. If it moves inland, it
might get several hundred miles before dropping to gale force winds. It will be
spawning tornados as far northwest as Kentucky and Ohio.

Basically, you can't run, but you *can* hide from one of these things. If you have a
strong enough hole to hide in.

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.

In article <HFNZc.278919$eM2.241167@attbi_s51>,
"Jay Honeck" > wrote:

> > Trouble with flying out is that the projected path has such a large area
> > of uncertainty that we cannot determine safe havens.
>
> Let me see if I understand this:
>
> It's better to leave the aircraft in an area of near-certain impact, than it
> is to fly the plane to an area of near-certain safety?


No, the area of impact is so uncertain that all of the projected impacts
are within the area of uncertainty.

>"Jay Honeck" wrote in message> It's better to leave the aircraft in an
area of >near-certain impact, than it
> is to fly the plane to an area of near-certain safety?

Depends on one's insurance policy. A friend of mine has a $2mil oceanfront
condo, a $2.5mil yacht, and $900k airplane. Which one would you choose?

D.

>"Ben Jackson" wrote in message > Frances is projected to run straight up
the >peninsula. Where are the planes going to hide this time?

Key West, which is packed to capacity. Many of the corporate jets went to
Biloxi and New Orleans. I'm waiting till tomorrow afternoon when the track
will provide a better forecast.

D.

> Depends on one's insurance policy. A friend of mine has a $2mil oceanfront
> condo, a $2.5mil yacht, and $900k airplane. Which one would you choose?

Well, you can't move the house -- and it's probably too late to move the
boat.

I'd move the plane, myself.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

> The problem is that there is no area of near-certain safety much closer to
Florida
> than Iowa. Maybe not there -- don't you guys get tornados this time of
year?

Tornados are short-lived beasts, with a diameter ranging from 100 feet to 2
miles. They pop up (down?) from just about any large storm, and cannot be
predicted with any certainty.

Hurricanes, on the other hand, cover entire states, live for weeks, and
lumber along with relative consistency. While it's true that you can't
tell which county they might hit until 6 hours out, you can predict which
state they're going to hammer, and when -- which is 98% better than tornado
prediction.

That said, I don't know what kind of a "hole" you can hide a plane in.
Hangars are about as poor a structure as I can imagine.

Personally, if I lived in Florida, I'd fly 6.5 hours north, and lounge in
one of our hot tubs for a few days...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Capt.Doug opined

>>"Jay Honeck" wrote in message> It's better to leave the aircraft in an
>area of >near-certain impact, than it
>> is to fly the plane to an area of near-certain safety?

>Depends on one's insurance policy. A friend of mine has a $2mil oceanfront
>condo, a $2.5mil yacht, and $900k airplane. Which one would you choose?

>D.

Move the condo?



-ash
Cthulhu for President!
Why vote for a lesser evil?

"Ash Wyllie" > wrote in message
...
> Capt.Doug opined
>
> >>"Jay Honeck" wrote in message> It's better to leave the aircraft in an
> >area of >near-certain impact, than it
> >> is to fly the plane to an area of near-certain safety?
>
> >Depends on one's insurance policy. A friend of mine has a $2mil
oceanfront
> >condo, a $2.5mil yacht, and $900k airplane. Which one would you choose?
>
> >D.
>
> Move the condo?
>

You dummy!! That would be too slow.

Jay Honeck wrote:
> Personally, if I lived in Florida, I'd fly 6.5 hours north, and lounge in
> one of our hot tubs for a few days...

So, do I understand correctly, you are offering free hotel rooms to
Florida refugees fleeing to Iowa in their personal aircraft? :-)

Ben Jackson wrote:
> Frances is projected to run straight up the peninsula. Where are the
> planes going to hide this time?

CNN just showed the current FlightExplorer screen with all the aircraft
heading north.

> So, do I understand correctly, you are offering free hotel rooms to
> Florida refugees fleeing to Iowa in their personal aircraft? :-)

Only if they buy dinner. And drinks.

And I'm really, REALLY thirsty!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Ben Jackson > wrote:

> Frances is projected to run straight up the peninsula. Where are the
> planes going to hide this time?

Easy, go west and/or south. A guy I met at FLL on thursday went to
jamaica, on a caravan on floats (envy...). I'm in Naples right now, not
bad at all. Most of the bahamians went to cuba. Not an option for the
americans, but hey, that's their policy...

If things should turn bad here (KAPF) I could still go further
west/south.

Cheers,
Jens

--
I don't accept any emails right now. Usenet replys only.

Just returned home to Miami after evacuating my airplane to Marathon
(Key West was full). There were 4 DC-3's, more than a dozen
Continental Express Beech 1900's and about 100 more fleeing GA
aircraft including some from the Bahamas. Folks at Paradise Jet
Service were great. Real nice place to stop. Marathon had plenty of
motel rooms as the big Labor Day Weekend was a washout.

Marathon was almost full Friday by noon. Winds did not allow more than
a couple of aircraft to get out until this morning (Monday).

I am learning that the National Hurricane Center maps predicting path
are VERY accurate (+/- 100 miles) out 3 days. No reason not to use
them as a guide on where to go. For Ivan I will try to end up at least
200 miles from the predicted landfall point.

Stuart Grant > wrote:

> Just returned home to Miami after evacuating my airplane to Marathon
> (Key West was full)

Glad to hear everything was ok with you. I just got back from KAPF,
three of our planes were parked in KEYW. Let's hope for the best with
Ivan.

Cheers,
Jens

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On 6 Sep 2004 14:33:57 -0700, (Stuart Grant)
wrote:

>Just returned home to Miami after evacuating my airplane to Marathon
>(Key West was full). There were 4 DC-3's, more than a dozen
>Continental Express Beech 1900's and about 100 more fleeing GA
>aircraft including some from the Bahamas. Folks at Paradise Jet
>Service were great. Real nice place to stop. Marathon had plenty of
>motel rooms as the big Labor Day Weekend was a washout.
>
>Marathon was almost full Friday by noon. Winds did not allow more than
>a couple of aircraft to get out until this morning (Monday).
>
>I am learning that the National Hurricane Center maps predicting path
>are VERY accurate (+/- 100 miles) out 3 days. No reason not to use
>them as a guide on where to go. For Ivan I will try to end up at least
>200 miles from the predicted landfall point.

Some pilots will use any excuse to fly they can find. Usually it's
good weather rather than bad though.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com